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		<title>By: antipadshist</title>
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		<dc:creator>antipadshist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan

Well, I guess my detailed post about &quot;Democracy&quot; was too long that it got modded out - I understand.

Anyway, trying to reproduce its essence:  

The whole idea of &quot;Democracy&quot; is a BIG JOKE, fake.

There is NO and never been &quot;... by the people, for the people&quot; anywhere in the world.

Even in ancient Athenian &quot;democracy&quot; - where only adult males who got military training had the privilege and right to vote - who comprised at most a quarter of the population (some source say - only 10%). Excluding women, &quot;aliens,&quot; half-bloods, etc.

And on the top of that, this &quot;majority rule&quot; (who was actually minority) allowed slavery, in fact in Athens it was more than in other Greek cities.

Modern &quot;democracies&quot; are no better - being mostly &quot;corporate fascism&quot; states.

So, yes - &quot;Democracy anyone?&quot; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan</p>
<p>Well, I guess my detailed post about &#8220;Democracy&#8221; was too long that it got modded out &#8211; I understand.</p>
<p>Anyway, trying to reproduce its essence:  </p>
<p>The whole idea of &#8220;Democracy&#8221; is a BIG JOKE, fake.</p>
<p>There is NO and never been &#8220;&#8230; by the people, for the people&#8221; anywhere in the world.</p>
<p>Even in ancient Athenian &#8220;democracy&#8221; &#8211; where only adult males who got military training had the privilege and right to vote &#8211; who comprised at most a quarter of the population (some source say &#8211; only 10%). Excluding women, &#8220;aliens,&#8221; half-bloods, etc.</p>
<p>And on the top of that, this &#8220;majority rule&#8221; (who was actually minority) allowed slavery, in fact in Athens it was more than in other Greek cities.</p>
<p>Modern &#8220;democracies&#8221; are no better &#8211; being mostly &#8220;corporate fascism&#8221; states.</p>
<p>So, yes &#8211; &#8220;Democracy anyone?&#8221; <img src='http://absolutelybangkok.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is tragic that anyone would elect a PM based on his looks not his ideals and ability to govern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is tragic that anyone would elect a PM based on his looks not his ideals and ability to govern.</p>
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		<title>By: antipadshist</title>
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		<dc:creator>antipadshist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, l just came across relevant info: in Thailand it also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/171754/jatuporn-changes-his-mind&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;costs millions&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Jatuporn ... said if an MP resigns and the Election Commission calls a by-election, then the &lt;b&gt;MP must pay the 10 million baht cost of the poll&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Democracy anyone? ;)

By the people for the people?

I doubt that &quot;people&quot; (say, some Isaan farmers) can afford paying 10 million merely for being eligible to run for a MP position, as a representative from their area.

Which brings to the natural conclusion of: WHO (what kind of &quot;people&quot;) has a chance to get elected at least as an ordinary MP - not to speak of becoming a PM! Even Jatuporn, already MP, hardly would ever AFFORD running for PM - while  pretty boy Abhisit had not much problems. Or imagine Veera, with his not at all photogenic typical Isaan peasant face - being ever allowed to become a PM! I almost hear the outrage of good fellow urban folks and elite - &quot;What a sacrilege! Buffalo became PM!&quot; :)

&lt;em&gt;(BD: Well Banharn had the honor ...)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, l just came across relevant info: in Thailand it also <a href="http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/171754/jatuporn-changes-his-mind" rel="nofollow">costs millions</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Jatuporn &#8230; said if an MP resigns and the Election Commission calls a by-election, then the <b>MP must pay the 10 million baht cost of the poll</b>.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Democracy anyone? <img src='http://absolutelybangkok.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>By the people for the people?</p>
<p>I doubt that &#8220;people&#8221; (say, some Isaan farmers) can afford paying 10 million merely for being eligible to run for a MP position, as a representative from their area.</p>
<p>Which brings to the natural conclusion of: WHO (what kind of &#8220;people&#8221;) has a chance to get elected at least as an ordinary MP &#8211; not to speak of becoming a PM! Even Jatuporn, already MP, hardly would ever AFFORD running for PM &#8211; while  pretty boy Abhisit had not much problems. Or imagine Veera, with his not at all photogenic typical Isaan peasant face &#8211; being ever allowed to become a PM! I almost hear the outrage of good fellow urban folks and elite &#8211; &#8220;What a sacrilege! Buffalo became PM!&#8221; <img src='http://absolutelybangkok.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>(BD: Well Banharn had the honor &#8230;)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. V</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AB is a good site. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AB is a good site. <img src='http://absolutelybangkok.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t think we can get anywhere by pointing fingers. Any kind of demonstrations whether to occupy the parliament, closing down the air port or marching on the street, bloodletting … etc. ... All of these cause destruction and disruption in people’s lives. As always the real people that suffer are those that need to fend for their families.

What measure do you use to judge a person? As for me, I judge them by what they can do to help my family and my community. A direct hit from the change after the coup is that now I have to go to an army hospital for a better care. A student in my village who went to school on scholarship almost had to drop out because the program was no longer funded.  A lot of people have to chip in the money to help her finish school. She’s the lucky one because there are others that simply have to drop out.

A real change can only come from the people themselves. I think democracy have a chance to flourish if more people keep their mind open and willing to compromise for the good of others. People with one-sided mind are an obstacle for democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t think we can get anywhere by pointing fingers. Any kind of demonstrations whether to occupy the parliament, closing down the air port or marching on the street, bloodletting … etc. &#8230; All of these cause destruction and disruption in people’s lives. As always the real people that suffer are those that need to fend for their families.</p>
<p>What measure do you use to judge a person? As for me, I judge them by what they can do to help my family and my community. A direct hit from the change after the coup is that now I have to go to an army hospital for a better care. A student in my village who went to school on scholarship almost had to drop out because the program was no longer funded.  A lot of people have to chip in the money to help her finish school. She’s the lucky one because there are others that simply have to drop out.</p>
<p>A real change can only come from the people themselves. I think democracy have a chance to flourish if more people keep their mind open and willing to compromise for the good of others. People with one-sided mind are an obstacle for democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Hobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy: My latest lazy blog post is tailor-made for people like you, so will not bother to comment further here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy: My latest lazy blog post is tailor-made for people like you, so will not bother to comment further here.</p>
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