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		<title>By: Now More Than Ever: Abhisit&#8217;s FCCT Address</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/corporate-3g-disobedience-true-hypocrisy/#comment-10122</link>
		<dc:creator>Now More Than Ever: Abhisit&#8217;s FCCT Address</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Laurent</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/corporate-3g-disobedience-true-hypocrisy/#comment-7607</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am afraid there is some sort of misunderstanding here as although AIS is using 900Mhz band for his super 3G service, it is indeed 3G WCDMA and therefore has nothing to do with AIS current 2G GSM technology.

The following statement: &quot;But even better, when the old GSM network can deliver speeds of 7.2 Mbps, who needs 3G?!&quot;
Is therefore wrong. 

You needs a 3G phone, actually one supporting 3G WCDMA in the 900 MHz band - which is significantly hard to find - to benefit from AIS Super 3G service.

&lt;em&gt;(BD: I explicitly said on AIS&#039; GSM 900 MHz band and therefore making use of current &quot;infrastructure.&quot; Hardware is another thing. But thanks for this important clarifier, AIS support wouldn&#039;t have mentioned a word of that.)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am afraid there is some sort of misunderstanding here as although AIS is using 900Mhz band for his super 3G service, it is indeed 3G WCDMA and therefore has nothing to do with AIS current 2G GSM technology.</p>
<p>The following statement: &#8220;But even better, when the old GSM network can deliver speeds of 7.2 Mbps, who needs 3G?!&#8221;<br />
Is therefore wrong. </p>
<p>You needs a 3G phone, actually one supporting 3G WCDMA in the 900 MHz band &#8211; which is significantly hard to find &#8211; to benefit from AIS Super 3G service.</p>
<p><em>(BD: I explicitly said on AIS&#8217; GSM 900 MHz band and therefore making use of current &#8220;infrastructure.&#8221; Hardware is another thing. But thanks for this important clarifier, AIS support wouldn&#8217;t have mentioned a word of that.)</em></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/corporate-3g-disobedience-true-hypocrisy/#comment-7569</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But … who needs 3G?!&quot;

I guess your write that stupid question just for people to react... :/

Just think about TV or YouTube videos on your 3G phone: sophisticated or not, Thai consumers will get addicted to it! And that would be just a beginning, before other services start to seduce those consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But … who needs 3G?!&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess your write that stupid question just for people to react&#8230; :/</p>
<p>Just think about TV or YouTube videos on your 3G phone: sophisticated or not, Thai consumers will get addicted to it! And that would be just a beginning, before other services start to seduce those consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: KV</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/corporate-3g-disobedience-true-hypocrisy/#comment-7564</link>
		<dc:creator>KV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About &quot;needing&quot; 3G, 3G is helpful in providing mobile internet access in city areas to those who do not have money to own computer. The drawback is that 3G is very expensive to spread in countryside due to the short range of the radio waves in the wavelength and need of much more radio stations compared to GSM bandwidths. 

Hence more complete proper telecommunications network is very much favorable but 3G and other 2G+ technologies are very essential part of any national telecom plan and should be fast forwarded. 

If you do not personally need 3G, you should try to think what other people might need or the needs and usages that could be created by the introduction of 3G.

Reminds me of how many people can&#039;t understand &quot;who needs mobile phone in Thai countryside&quot; when these commenters had no realization of how mobile phone is essential tool for commerce for example in remote locations once the &quot;who needs GSM&quot; networks are in place ...

And for mobile internet use, please refer to statistics from China and Japan for example. Japan, even being developed nation has lead the way in mobile internet usage. You tell Japanese they don&#039;t need 3G?

&quot;Using a multiple-response questionnaire, the survey showed the number of users who access the Internet with personal computers was the highest at 82.55 million, while the number of people who access it from cell phones was 75.06 million. Those accessing it via a games console or TV was 5.67 million, it said.

http://www.internetworldstats.com/asia/jp.htm&quot;

You might not need, but if and when the data is cheap, many ppl who do not have their own computers can have an access to information with their mobile phones. For grass roots access to information creates very fast new things and ideas, see for example how Twitter was banned this year in China, and for what reasons. 

For reference:

http://www.webprochina.com/?p=237</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About &#8220;needing&#8221; 3G, 3G is helpful in providing mobile internet access in city areas to those who do not have money to own computer. The drawback is that 3G is very expensive to spread in countryside due to the short range of the radio waves in the wavelength and need of much more radio stations compared to GSM bandwidths. </p>
<p>Hence more complete proper telecommunications network is very much favorable but 3G and other 2G+ technologies are very essential part of any national telecom plan and should be fast forwarded. </p>
<p>If you do not personally need 3G, you should try to think what other people might need or the needs and usages that could be created by the introduction of 3G.</p>
<p>Reminds me of how many people can&#8217;t understand &#8220;who needs mobile phone in Thai countryside&#8221; when these commenters had no realization of how mobile phone is essential tool for commerce for example in remote locations once the &#8220;who needs GSM&#8221; networks are in place &#8230;</p>
<p>And for mobile internet use, please refer to statistics from China and Japan for example. Japan, even being developed nation has lead the way in mobile internet usage. You tell Japanese they don&#8217;t need 3G?</p>
<p>&#8220;Using a multiple-response questionnaire, the survey showed the number of users who access the Internet with personal computers was the highest at 82.55 million, while the number of people who access it from cell phones was 75.06 million. Those accessing it via a games console or TV was 5.67 million, it said.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.internetworldstats.com/asia/jp.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.internetworldstats.com/asia/jp.htm</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>You might not need, but if and when the data is cheap, many ppl who do not have their own computers can have an access to information with their mobile phones. For grass roots access to information creates very fast new things and ideas, see for example how Twitter was banned this year in China, and for what reasons. </p>
<p>For reference:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.webprochina.com/?p=237" rel="nofollow">http://www.webprochina.com/?p=237</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leosia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leosia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much as I would have liked 3G some time ago I have to agree. In Thailand consumers are not exactly sophisticated so the long-running campaign by True when advertising the iPhone, &quot;3G + WiFi&quot; - when Thailand doesn&#039;t have 3G - amounts to fraud. As usual here it&#039;s all talk and no action.

The technology and sophistication of the iPhone (and indeed all Mac products) and BlackBerry is entirely wasted on the average Thai buyer. Similarly, all the telecom providers consistently refer to their &quot;high-speed ADSL&quot; when the connections are usually slower than a dial-up modem because it&#039;s shared with so many users.

Pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much as I would have liked 3G some time ago I have to agree. In Thailand consumers are not exactly sophisticated so the long-running campaign by True when advertising the iPhone, &#8220;3G + WiFi&#8221; &#8211; when Thailand doesn&#8217;t have 3G &#8211; amounts to fraud. As usual here it&#8217;s all talk and no action.</p>
<p>The technology and sophistication of the iPhone (and indeed all Mac products) and BlackBerry is entirely wasted on the average Thai buyer. Similarly, all the telecom providers consistently refer to their &#8220;high-speed ADSL&#8221; when the connections are usually slower than a dial-up modem because it&#8217;s shared with so many users.</p>
<p>Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: BangkokDan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BangkokDan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 04:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must be new to aB.com &lt;em&gt;Anon&lt;/em&gt;.

Do a search, this site has a rich history of deploring Thailand&#039;s backward mobile communication technology.

But I&#039;d also refuse to pay an outrageous premium for something that don&#039;t really need.

Mobile TV? Streaming vids? Nice, but again, Super 3G &lt;strong&gt;is not&lt;/strong&gt; 3G.

If Super 3G can do, why do I need a meanwhile old 3G technology? There&#039;s 4G out there already.

Once Thailand gets a probably overpriced 3G, other countries have long moved to 4G.

&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BangkokDan&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be new to aB.com <em>Anon</em>.</p>
<p>Do a search, this site has a rich history of deploring Thailand&#8217;s backward mobile communication technology.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d also refuse to pay an outrageous premium for something that don&#8217;t really need.</p>
<p>Mobile TV? Streaming vids? Nice, but again, Super 3G <strong>is not</strong> 3G.</p>
<p>If Super 3G can do, why do I need a meanwhile old 3G technology? There&#8217;s 4G out there already.</p>
<p>Once Thailand gets a probably overpriced 3G, other countries have long moved to 4G.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">BangkokDan</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 04:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thailand needs 3G in 2009 the same way Thailand needed GSM in 1989. Besides, it&#039;s not your cash being invested - if the investments fail in the long run, let the private sector bare that burden. 20 years from now, will some whining bloggers complain that some plucky 3G entrepreneur turned politician got a risk-free license to make money on 2009&#039;s no-brainer 3G auctions? :) 

And besides, do you have any idea how cheap 300 baht ($10) is for 1.5 GB? In the U.S., AT&amp;T charges $60 for unlimited data, but a heavy 3G user like me was never downloading more than 500 MB a month!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thailand needs 3G in 2009 the same way Thailand needed GSM in 1989. Besides, it&#8217;s not your cash being invested &#8211; if the investments fail in the long run, let the private sector bare that burden. 20 years from now, will some whining bloggers complain that some plucky 3G entrepreneur turned politician got a risk-free license to make money on 2009&#8242;s no-brainer 3G auctions? <img src='http://absolutelybangkok.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>And besides, do you have any idea how cheap 300 baht ($10) is for 1.5 GB? In the U.S., AT&#038;T charges $60 for unlimited data, but a heavy 3G user like me was never downloading more than 500 MB a month!</p>
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