Comments on: I See Red When I See Yellow http://absolutelybangkok.com/i-see-red-when-i-see-yellow/ The Portal for the Bangkok Connoisseur - The Elaborate & Profane of Big Mango Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:43:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: bosunj http://absolutelybangkok.com/i-see-red-when-i-see-yellow/comment-page-1/#comment-6707 bosunj Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:12:53 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=5844#comment-6707 Sinister. Good word to describe banksters and their machinations. Sinister. Good word to describe banksters and their machinations.

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]]> By: BangkokDan http://absolutelybangkok.com/i-see-red-when-i-see-yellow/comment-page-1/#comment-6706 BangkokDan Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:02:48 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=5844#comment-6706 Quite a sinister assessment <em>Jaded</em>. The majority of Thais remains uncommitted. While, interestingly, there is no (more) student movement involved ... The reds have learned to keep their cool. They'll succeed if they master the waiting game. Currently, that may sound odd, the yellows seem under more pressure. <a href="mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">BangkokDan</a> Quite a sinister assessment Jaded.

The majority of Thais remains uncommitted. While, interestingly, there is no (more) student movement involved …

The reds have learned to keep their cool. They’ll succeed if they master the waiting game. Currently, that may sound odd, the yellows seem under more pressure.

BangkokDan

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]]> By: Jaded http://absolutelybangkok.com/i-see-red-when-i-see-yellow/comment-page-1/#comment-6700 Jaded Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:06:54 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=5844#comment-6700 I have left Thailand for a month and, talking to friends working in the investment and development banks, a new Thailand story has definitely taken root in their consciousness. Immediately prior to the events of last weekend several analysts circulated notes on the upcoming disturbances in Thailand. It's perfectly obvious that the financial markets have now priced in a risk of revolution and/or military dictatorship premium to future and present Thailand investments. Or to put it another way, it matters little to the money men whether the sources of instability wear yellow or red. What concerns them is that beyond a certain point instability takes on a momentum of its own. At this point everyone knows what the trigger for large scale social unrest is likely to be. What the market is now pricing in is the likelihood that when that time comes, the red and yellow organizations will be in a strong position to escalate their respective campaigns and destabilize the already fragile Thai state. One theory going around is that the repeated use of the ISA is an attempt by the military to create an opportunity to crush the red movement before it gains any more revolutionary momentum. If through provocation or some other mechanism, "sufficient" unrest was visible at a single demonstration, these conditions might allow them to inflict a crushing and exemplary defeat along the lines of 1992 or 1976. The gossip going around in European banks last Friday was the by absenting himself the prime minister was washing his hands of any responsibility for what might happen next. With the benefit of hindsight these rumors can be seen as overly hysterical and catastrophic in their tone but, and this seems to be a general perception now, the normal sources of foreign investment in Thailand are on high alert and expecting the worst ... There was a great deal of talk about what might potentially occur in Thailand last weekend. And, as far as I could tell, the people involved had no difficulty making a distinction between the relative potential of yellow and red to be a source of instability. I just got off the phone with someone who manages Thailand and Cambodia for their institution. Knowing something of the history of recent Thai unrest they suggested that the yellows are being maintained as a deniable paramilitary force to be brought into direct conflict with the reds to precipitate what they referred to as the inevitable crackdown. If that's true then you can see the yellow's weekend excursion to the border as a training exercise. Newin's triumphant acquittal today might be another piece of this puzzle. The theory goes that when sufficient pieces have been rearranged, the yellow and perhaps the blue forces will be maneuvered into direct conflict with the reds. If this analysis is correct then the difference between the colours is quite obvious ... I have left Thailand for a month and, talking to friends working in the investment and development banks, a new Thailand story has definitely taken root in their consciousness. Immediately prior to the events of last weekend several analysts circulated notes on the upcoming disturbances in Thailand. It’s perfectly obvious that the financial markets have now priced in a risk of revolution and/or military dictatorship premium to future and present Thailand investments. Or to put it another way, it matters little to the money men whether the sources of instability wear yellow or red. What concerns them is that beyond a certain point instability takes on a momentum of its own. At this point everyone knows what the trigger for large scale social unrest is likely to be. What the market is now pricing in is the likelihood that when that time comes, the red and yellow organizations will be in a strong position to escalate their respective campaigns and destabilize the already fragile Thai state. One theory going around is that the repeated use of the ISA is an attempt by the military to create an opportunity to crush the red movement before it gains any more revolutionary momentum. If through provocation or some other mechanism, “sufficient” unrest was visible at a single demonstration, these conditions might allow them to inflict a crushing and exemplary defeat along the lines of 1992 or 1976. The gossip going around in European banks last Friday was the by absenting himself the prime minister was washing his hands of any responsibility for what might happen next.

With the benefit of hindsight these rumors can be seen as overly hysterical and catastrophic in their tone but, and this seems to be a general perception now, the normal sources of foreign investment in Thailand are on high alert and expecting the worst …

There was a great deal of talk about what might potentially occur in Thailand last weekend. And, as far as I could tell, the people involved had no difficulty making a distinction between the relative potential of yellow and red to be a source of instability. I just got off the phone with someone who manages Thailand and Cambodia for their institution. Knowing something of the history of recent Thai unrest they suggested that the yellows are being maintained as a deniable paramilitary force to be brought into direct conflict with the reds to precipitate what they referred to as the inevitable crackdown. If that’s true then you can see the yellow’s weekend excursion to the border as a training exercise. Newin’s triumphant acquittal today might be another piece of this puzzle. The theory goes that when sufficient pieces have been rearranged, the yellow and perhaps the blue forces will be maneuvered into direct conflict with the reds. If this analysis is correct then the difference between the colours is quite obvious …

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]]> By: BangkokDan http://absolutelybangkok.com/i-see-red-when-i-see-yellow/comment-page-1/#comment-6666 BangkokDan Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:02:14 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=5844#comment-6666 I'm still pretending to see encouraging signs of Thai people asking and working for change. But had a quite depressing talk with a student yesterday who poured cold water all over me. The leading generation to come, said he, simply follow their dads. <a href="mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">BangkokDan</a> I’m still pretending to see encouraging signs of Thai people asking and working for change. But had a quite depressing talk with a student yesterday who poured cold water all over me.

The leading generation to come, said he, simply follow their dads.

BangkokDan

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]]> By: Chdarat http://absolutelybangkok.com/i-see-red-when-i-see-yellow/comment-page-1/#comment-6663 Chdarat Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:45:18 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=5844#comment-6663 Me too, I see no differentiation! There is no love for the country from both sides so it will be nice if they stop referencing that and just come clean. We are right back where we started, medieval Thailand where the landowners rule! Stop be stooges for some rich and powerful. Think about this lovely country, the potential, our future and consider what you're doing! Me too, I see no differentiation!

There is no love for the country from both sides so it will be nice if they stop referencing that and just come clean.

We are right back where we started, medieval Thailand where the landowners rule!

Stop be stooges for some rich and powerful.

Think about this lovely country, the potential, our future and consider what you’re doing!

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]]> By: Andy http://absolutelybangkok.com/i-see-red-when-i-see-yellow/comment-page-1/#comment-6575 Andy Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:42:49 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=5844#comment-6575 Totally agree with you @ this moment. Totally silly and egoistic on both sides! Guess our current PM Abhisit (I have so much hope in him - where else do you guys see hope here?) is sending out a clear signal on his TV Show this morning, by wearing a shirt with red and yellow stripes! Stop this nonsense please, both!! Nice header, but I prefer to say: I "also" see red when I see yellow. Totally agree with you @ this moment. Totally silly and egoistic on both sides! Guess our current PM Abhisit (I have so much hope in him – where else do you guys see hope here?) is sending out a clear signal on his TV Show this morning, by wearing a shirt with red and yellow stripes!

Stop this nonsense please, both!!

Nice header, but I prefer to say:

I “also” see red when I see yellow.

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