Comments on: Of Foreigners As Political Bargaining Tools & The King’s Birthday Speech http://absolutelybangkok.com/of-foreigners-as-political-bargaining-tools-the-kings-birthday-speech/ The Portal for the Bangkok Connoisseur - The Elaborate & Profane of Big Mango Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:43:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Judy http://absolutelybangkok.com/of-foreigners-as-political-bargaining-tools-the-kings-birthday-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-2927 Judy Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:14:58 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=3106#comment-2927 So news is out that come Friday, again PAD will close the airport because the current government is still governing the country. So news is out that come Friday, again PAD will close the airport because the current government is still governing the country.

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]]> By: bosunj http://absolutelybangkok.com/of-foreigners-as-political-bargaining-tools-the-kings-birthday-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-2901 bosunj Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:03:25 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=3106#comment-2901 Bangkok Pundit and AFP are reporting PAD has announced that flights can resume from both airports immediately. Bangkok Pundit and AFP are reporting PAD has announced that flights can resume from both airports immediately.

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]]> By: bosunj http://absolutelybangkok.com/of-foreigners-as-political-bargaining-tools-the-kings-birthday-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-2900 bosunj Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:04:07 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=3106#comment-2900 @Dave: A wider discussion is in order and has been for some time. The faux news adherents herein don't want that though as it rocks their propagandized view of the planet. Click on my user name to go to my site. Send me an email from there. Dan has a good blog but it's about Thailand. As for SBThailand, the state she's from is dominated by people with an attitude like hers. Unfortunately it is one I know all to well as I had the misfortune of doing crew changes there for several years while I was building sea time to advance my license. Lousyana is a place where dissent is not only not tolerated it is savagely attacked. And, they're darn proud of it! @Dave: A wider discussion is in order and has been for some time. The faux news adherents herein don’t want that though as it rocks their propagandized view of the planet. Click on my user name to go to my site. Send me an email from there. Dan has a good blog but it’s about Thailand.

As for SBThailand, the state she’s from is dominated by people with an attitude like hers. Unfortunately it is one I know all to well as I had the misfortune of doing crew changes there for several years while I was building sea time to advance my license. Lousyana is a place where dissent is not only not tolerated it is savagely attacked. And, they’re darn proud of it!

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]]> By: SBThailand http://absolutelybangkok.com/of-foreigners-as-political-bargaining-tools-the-kings-birthday-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-2899 SBThailand Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:03:25 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=3106#comment-2899 No argument about the term being loose, but I think it is fairly easy to decide if something is a terrorist act or not. A state-supported army, I would normally say no, but I guess that depends on which side of the army you are on. Guy throwing grenades-seems to be a run of the mill criminal, but he could qualify as a terrorist. As an average citizen, I am more "terrorized" by everyday crime (in U.S.) than any "terrorist" activities. I think calling someone or something a terrorist implies a organizational belief system and longivity of activities rather than a one-time crime spree. When you start to impede my right to move around freely, we have a problem. I don't think there is a limit per se, but at some point, as a group, you have crossed the line. PAD has definately crossed that line. I agree, Thailand's problems will not be solved anytime soon and I am certain it will be much worse before it can get any better. No argument about the term being loose, but I think it is fairly easy to decide if something is a terrorist act or not. A state-supported army, I would normally say no, but I guess that depends on which side of the army you are on. Guy throwing grenades-seems to be a run of the mill criminal, but he could qualify as a terrorist. As an average citizen, I am more “terrorized” by everyday crime (in U.S.) than any “terrorist” activities. I think calling someone or something a terrorist implies a organizational belief system and longivity of activities rather than a one-time crime spree.

When you start to impede my right to move around freely, we have a problem. I don’t think there is a limit per se, but at some point, as a group, you have crossed the line. PAD has definately crossed that line. I agree, Thailand’s problems will not be solved anytime soon and I am certain it will be much worse before it can get any better.

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]]> By: Dave http://absolutelybangkok.com/of-foreigners-as-political-bargaining-tools-the-kings-birthday-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-2897 Dave Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:56:20 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=3106#comment-2897 I accept the definition of PAD as terrorists, but as I said, the term is loose. Is a state-supported army considered terrorist? What about UDD? What about the army guy who was implicated in throwing grenades? What is the limit that an organization can go to in order to bring about change? I don't support PAD as their agenda is corporate/military, although I do sympathize with their desire to rid the country of Thaksin. Power structures shape society, the PAD movement is just another example of traditional power structures flexing their muscles. The answers to the problems in Thailand though will not be solved any time soon unfortunately. :( I accept the definition of PAD as terrorists, but as I said, the term is loose. Is a state-supported army considered terrorist? What about UDD? What about the army guy who was implicated in throwing grenades?

What is the limit that an organization can go to in order to bring about change?

I don’t support PAD as their agenda is corporate/military, although I do sympathize with their desire to rid the country of Thaksin. Power structures shape society, the PAD movement is just another example of traditional power structures flexing their muscles. The answers to the problems in Thailand though will not be solved any time soon unfortunately. :(

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]]> By: SBThailand http://absolutelybangkok.com/of-foreigners-as-political-bargaining-tools-the-kings-birthday-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-2893 SBThailand Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:04:25 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=3106#comment-2893 Actually Dave, if you follow bosunj's posts, you would understand my attitude towards him. I am not particularly fond of everything about America or Americans, but I am intelligent enough not of condemn the entire nation. And I am sorry, but a broad discussion is not necessary to classify PAD's armed seizure of the airport as terrorism. A broad discussion is not necessary when we call anyone who seizes an aircraft a terrorist, so why do you think it is necessary now? It is very obvious that the PAD has ceased being an agent of change and has morphed into a terror organization. If you don't believe me, ask all the people that have been beaten up, kept hostage in Thailand, or the police officers that came under fire the other day. Actually Dave, if you follow bosunj’s posts, you would understand my attitude towards him. I am not particularly fond of everything about America or Americans, but I am intelligent enough not of condemn the entire nation.

And I am sorry, but a broad discussion is not necessary to classify PAD’s armed seizure of the airport as terrorism. A broad discussion is not necessary when we call anyone who seizes an aircraft a terrorist, so why do you think it is necessary now? It is very obvious that the PAD has ceased being an agent of change and has morphed into a terror organization. If you don’t believe me, ask all the people that have been beaten up, kept hostage in Thailand, or the police officers that came under fire the other day.

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