Comments on: Real-Time: Que Sera, Sera http://absolutelybangkok.com/real-time-que-sera-sera/ Welcome to Bangkok Thailand, Airport, Politics, Food, Nightlife and Thai Culture of the Big Mango! Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:43:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: PAD and Reality « Asian Correspondent http://absolutelybangkok.com/real-time-que-sera-sera/#comment-7618 PAD and Reality « Asian Correspondent Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:38 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=2961#comment-7618 [...] city the numbers in any one place are are not tens of thousands let alone hundreds of thousands.h/t AB (who is updating hourly)AP:The protest alliance also says it is committed to nonviolence, [...] [...] city the numbers in any one place are are not tens of thousands let alone hundreds of thousands.h/t AB (who is updating hourly)AP:The protest alliance also says it is committed to nonviolence, [...]

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Thailand: Rallies and Twitter updates http://absolutelybangkok.com/real-time-que-sera-sera/#comment-2797 Global Voices Online » Thailand: Rallies and Twitter updates Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:56:44 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=2961#comment-2797 [...] So far, PAD is unable to gather a substantial number of people in the streets. Its target is to mobilize 100,000 people but this figure has not yet been reached. There are reports that PAD has been transporting protesters from the provinces. [...] [...] So far, PAD is unable to gather a substantial number of people in the streets. Its target is to mobilize 100,000 people but this figure has not yet been reached. There are reports that PAD has been transporting protesters from the provinces. [...]

]]> By: JJ http://absolutelybangkok.com/real-time-que-sera-sera/#comment-2796 JJ Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:52:04 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=2961#comment-2796 What strikes me is the complete absence of a critical dialog within the PAD. With those PAD leaders/saints promising success again and again and failing again and again ... nobody questions those saints?! And because there's no open debate the people leave the PAD ... For the rest it's just too easy to say yes yes all the time with those hand clappers ... What strikes me is the complete absence of a critical dialog within the PAD. With those PAD leaders/saints promising success again and again and failing again and again … nobody questions those saints?! And because there’s no open debate the people leave the PAD … For the rest it’s just too easy to say yes yes all the time with those hand clappers …

]]> By: cosmos http://absolutelybangkok.com/real-time-que-sera-sera/#comment-2793 cosmos Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:21:20 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=2961#comment-2793 The 20,000 - 30,000 supporters that are out this time and which are willing to face real threat of death or serious injury is significant number. This is not "a nice trip to the big city." This are mostly people who believe in their cause so much that are willing to face danger and hardship of protesting all day and camping out on street to stand for it. To be honest, many PAD sympathizers who I believe still there are many, don't see political return of Thaksin as a real possibility at this time. So they don't see it as worth to come out. However, if some event happen that increase significantly the possibility of an Thaksin return (eg. constitution amendment), then I expect the PAD numbers will also greatly increased, possibly to 100,000s again. The 20,000 – 30,000 supporters that are out this time and which are willing to face real threat of death or serious injury is significant number. This is not “a nice trip to the big city.” This are mostly people who believe in their cause so much that are willing to face danger and hardship of protesting all day and camping out on street to stand for it.

To be honest, many PAD sympathizers who I believe still there are many, don’t see political return of Thaksin as a real possibility at this time. So they don’t see it as worth to come out. However, if some event happen that increase significantly the possibility of an Thaksin return (eg. constitution amendment), then I expect the PAD numbers will also greatly increased, possibly to 100,000s again.

]]> By: SBThailand http://absolutelybangkok.com/real-time-que-sera-sera/#comment-2792 SBThailand Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:09:25 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=2961#comment-2792 TC, I agree it is part of a broader plan. But, that plan doesn't appear to be very organized and they may have won a battle, but they aren't going to win the war in current society. Technology has shined the light on too many things and information is a powerful thing. I am fairly certain "the majority" isn't going to put up with their new-found rights being taken away. If PPP is dissolved or the house is dissolved for new elections, we will be right back here in 6-12 months. The government has to stay the course. TC, I agree it is part of a broader plan. But, that plan doesn’t appear to be very organized and they may have won a battle, but they aren’t going to win the war in current society. Technology has shined the light on too many things and information is a powerful thing. I am fairly certain “the majority” isn’t going to put up with their new-found rights being taken away.

If PPP is dissolved or the house is dissolved for new elections, we will be right back here in 6-12 months. The government has to stay the course.

]]> By: ThaiCrisis http://absolutelybangkok.com/real-time-que-sera-sera/#comment-2790 ThaiCrisis Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:35:13 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=2961#comment-2790 I agree. But was "to have a solid part of the population" a real target for the PAD? That's the whole question. I start to think that the purpose of the PAD was absolutly not to create a real "political force" that could challenge the PPP, blablabla ... but instead like I wrote before, to drive the gvt crazy, to prevent them from "working" properly (and changing the constitution), just a way to gain time, make noise, occupy the media and the minds of the people. In one year, 2 prime ministers, rallies, headlines, a few deads here and there, people angry, confused, a government forced to work in an old airport etc ... It's a mess. But this mess could be seen as a <i>tactical success</i>. Anyway, we'll know soon ... Let's wait for the PPP dissolution for instance. And see what happen next. Personally I think the PAD is part of a broader plan. Absolutely not a plan by its own. ;-) I agree. But was “to have a solid part of the population” a real target for the PAD?

That’s the whole question.

I start to think that the purpose of the PAD was absolutly not to create a real “political force” that could challenge the PPP, blablabla … but instead like I wrote before, to drive the gvt crazy, to prevent them from “working” properly (and changing the constitution), just a way to gain time, make noise, occupy the media and the minds of the people.

In one year, 2 prime ministers, rallies, headlines, a few deads here and there, people angry, confused, a government forced to work in an old airport etc …

It’s a mess.

But this mess could be seen as a tactical success.

Anyway, we’ll know soon … Let’s wait for the PPP dissolution for instance. And see what happen next.

Personally I think the PAD is part of a broader plan. Absolutely not a plan by its own. ;-)

]]> By: BangkokDan http://absolutelybangkok.com/real-time-que-sera-sera/#comment-2789 BangkokDan Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:48:42 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=2961#comment-2789 I'm afraid the PAD are a thing of the past <em>TC</em>. They're perceived by many as even more divisive than Thaksin. They had their golden chances - and blew it. There was a time a solid part of the population stood behind them. Now they even have to truck in supporters from far down South. But does Thailand have an(y) alternative? So polarized, one of the evils will have to do I'm afraid. <a href="mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">BangkokDan</a> I’m afraid the PAD are a thing of the past TC.

They’re perceived by many as even more divisive than Thaksin.

They had their golden chances – and blew it. There was a time a solid part of the population stood behind them. Now they even have to truck in supporters from far down South.

But does Thailand have an(y) alternative? So polarized, one of the evils will have to do I’m afraid.

BangkokDan

]]> By: ThaiCrisis http://absolutelybangkok.com/real-time-que-sera-sera/#comment-2788 ThaiCrisis Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:37:22 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=2961#comment-2788 Indeed, it's becoming embarrassing ! "Victory," "Final Battle," "People Revolution," "Final Showdown," "General Strike," blablablabla. I mean we all know that we are watching a <i>show</i>. It was funny and/or tragic at the beginning ... but now ... big tiredness. I start to think that the "non-strategy" of the gvt, AKA doing nothing, just waiting, is the good one. It's going to be difficult for the PAD to continue like that. But ... but ... it might no be a a total "loser situation" after all ... what if the only function of the PAD's circus was to "freeze" the gvt, divert its attention, confine the gvt in a gangue of heavy syrup? <b>A super big red herring ...</b> With 3 aims: - prevent the gvt to change the constitution - wait until the economic situation worsens (to curb the popular support) - and finally, wait for ... the PPP dissolution ? Let's be honest: Until now, we can say that those aims look quite successful. The PAD is looking and acting grotesque ... But on a broader plan, their strategy could be very successful. Indeed, it’s becoming embarrassing !

“Victory,” “Final Battle,” “People Revolution,” “Final Showdown,” “General Strike,” blablablabla.

I mean we all know that we are watching a show.

It was funny and/or tragic at the beginning … but now … big tiredness.

I start to think that the “non-strategy” of the gvt, AKA doing nothing, just waiting, is the good one.

It’s going to be difficult for the PAD to continue like that.

But … but … it might no be a a total “loser situation” after all … what if the only function of the PAD’s circus was to “freeze” the gvt, divert its attention, confine the gvt in a gangue of heavy syrup?

A super big red herring …

With 3 aims:

- prevent the gvt to change the constitution
- wait until the economic situation worsens (to curb the popular support)
- and finally, wait for … the PPP dissolution

?

Let’s be honest: Until now, we can say that those aims look quite successful.

The PAD is looking and acting grotesque … But on a broader plan, their strategy could be very successful.

]]> By: SBThailand http://absolutelybangkok.com/real-time-que-sera-sera/#comment-2785 SBThailand Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:16:48 +0000 http://absolutelybangkok.com/?p=2961#comment-2785 TOC is cracking me up! When will all this nonsense end already? What the heck is the Metro Police Department doing? Answer: Not too much! TOC is cracking me up! When will all this nonsense end already? What the heck is the Metro Police Department doing? Answer: Not too much!

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