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		<title>By: Sittichai</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/thailand-a-chinese-colony/#comment-11676</link>
		<dc:creator>Sittichai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 13:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe there must be a large number of pure-blooded Thais still. Also, isn&#039;t there some doubt that has arisen in recent years among evolutionary biologists/geneticists that the Tai or Kradai peoples are actually of Australonesian origin rater than having moved from Southern China as had widely been accepted previously? Anyway my close friend maintains that his family is pure Thai and I believe him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe there must be a large number of pure-blooded Thais still. Also, isn&#8217;t there some doubt that has arisen in recent years among evolutionary biologists/geneticists that the Tai or Kradai peoples are actually of Australonesian origin rater than having moved from Southern China as had widely been accepted previously? Anyway my close friend maintains that his family is pure Thai and I believe him.</p>
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		<title>By: silencing</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/thailand-a-chinese-colony/#comment-11613</link>
		<dc:creator>silencing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 16:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Federico Ferrara is Khi Kwai not Wise Kwai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Federico Ferrara is Khi Kwai not Wise Kwai.</p>
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		<title>By: antiPADshist</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/thailand-a-chinese-colony/#comment-11611</link>
		<dc:creator>antiPADshist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 11:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robin

No, I was referring to News in Bangkok blog, search there for three posts &quot;Chinese in Bangkok.&quot;

Here it is, I found it, three posts (this blog has changed its template since, thus I couldn&#039;t recall its name immediately):

http://news.inbangkok.org/?p=497
http://news.inbangkok.org/?p=501
http://news.inbangkok.org/?p=534

As you can see, I have made a comment to first post, and provided some more links to  other articles on the matter.

Especially I recommend reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.archive.org/web/20060828110300/www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader2006/reader2728.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;, it provides quite revealing stuff, as well as some other side of story about 1997 crisis. ;) 

Notice that the article on Stickman&#039;s blog (&quot;&lt;i&gt;Thais, Farang, and The Land&lt;/i&gt;&quot;)  has been removed already quite a while, so, the link is to its archived version. But is quite revealing I think. In this article  the author starts to explain main thing from the third paragraph, with words:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;As you may have or have not noticed, I have left out the Chinese from the blame the foreigners list ....&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I think  he makes a VERY solid point ins saying :
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;They control all private and public propaganda in Thailand. The Chinese are the one group of foreigners who are really responsible for screwing up Thailand ...&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I won&#039;t make longer quotes here, although surely it would be worth it. But I suggest to read that all to get SOME idea of what&#039;s actually going on here.

Also a good one is by BP: &quot;Colonized by the Middle Class,&quot; which he based on article &quot;Shuffling Towards Fascism&quot; - where in the comments there is some discussion  on fascism.

BTW, I think the SAME thing is gonna happen now, with Korn&#039;s &amp; his buddy Abhisit&#039;s massive  project called &quot;Khem Kaeng,&quot; which is not simply a single project, but as super-huge package of MANY mega-projects - which makes all the prelude to &#039;97 pale in comparison. I bet that  Korn &amp; his fellow banksters (and other plunderers, as CP and other magnates) are right NOW causing this country a much higher damage than what has lead to &#039;97 crisis. Wait and see!

And that, in my opinion, is the MAIN reason of why Abhisit is so stubborn in refusing to call for elections now - because he &amp; Korn along with all the Demo-craps (the most corrupt, cockroach party) are so desperate to drag on few more months until the end of year - to make sure that B400bln have been  fully divided among themselves and their allies BEFORE any elections take place. And then - let even TRT/PPP/PT/whoever else of UDD win the elections LOL! Because they will inherit the HUGE load of debt left over by Demo-craps. After all, that&#039;s  why they&#039;re Demo-craps, right?

&lt;em&gt;(BD: So easily forgetting the Thaksin order, it&#039;s flabbergasting ... Thanks for the Stickman link, excellent read.)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robin</p>
<p>No, I was referring to News in Bangkok blog, search there for three posts &#8220;Chinese in Bangkok.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here it is, I found it, three posts (this blog has changed its template since, thus I couldn&#8217;t recall its name immediately):</p>
<p><a href="http://news.inbangkok.org/?p=497" rel="nofollow">http://news.inbangkok.org/?p=497</a><br />
<a href="http://news.inbangkok.org/?p=501" rel="nofollow">http://news.inbangkok.org/?p=501</a><br />
<a href="http://news.inbangkok.org/?p=534" rel="nofollow">http://news.inbangkok.org/?p=534</a></p>
<p>As you can see, I have made a comment to first post, and provided some more links to  other articles on the matter.</p>
<p>Especially I recommend reading <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20060828110300/www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader2006/reader2728.htm" rel="nofollow">this one</a>, it provides quite revealing stuff, as well as some other side of story about 1997 crisis. <img src='http://absolutelybangkok.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Notice that the article on Stickman&#8217;s blog (&#8220;<i>Thais, Farang, and The Land</i>&#8220;)  has been removed already quite a while, so, the link is to its archived version. But is quite revealing I think. In this article  the author starts to explain main thing from the third paragraph, with words:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;As you may have or have not noticed, I have left out the Chinese from the blame the foreigners list &#8230;.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I think  he makes a VERY solid point ins saying :</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;They control all private and public propaganda in Thailand. The Chinese are the one group of foreigners who are really responsible for screwing up Thailand &#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I won&#8217;t make longer quotes here, although surely it would be worth it. But I suggest to read that all to get SOME idea of what&#8217;s actually going on here.</p>
<p>Also a good one is by BP: &#8220;Colonized by the Middle Class,&#8221; which he based on article &#8220;Shuffling Towards Fascism&#8221; &#8211; where in the comments there is some discussion  on fascism.</p>
<p>BTW, I think the SAME thing is gonna happen now, with Korn&#8217;s &amp; his buddy Abhisit&#8217;s massive  project called &#8220;Khem Kaeng,&#8221; which is not simply a single project, but as super-huge package of MANY mega-projects &#8211; which makes all the prelude to &#8217;97 pale in comparison. I bet that  Korn &amp; his fellow banksters (and other plunderers, as CP and other magnates) are right NOW causing this country a much higher damage than what has lead to &#8217;97 crisis. Wait and see!</p>
<p>And that, in my opinion, is the MAIN reason of why Abhisit is so stubborn in refusing to call for elections now &#8211; because he &amp; Korn along with all the Demo-craps (the most corrupt, cockroach party) are so desperate to drag on few more months until the end of year &#8211; to make sure that B400bln have been  fully divided among themselves and their allies BEFORE any elections take place. And then &#8211; let even TRT/PPP/PT/whoever else of UDD win the elections LOL! Because they will inherit the HUGE load of debt left over by Demo-craps. After all, that&#8217;s  why they&#8217;re Demo-craps, right?</p>
<p><em>(BD: So easily forgetting the Thaksin order, it&#8217;s flabbergasting &#8230; Thanks for the Stickman link, excellent read.)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Mithran</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/thailand-a-chinese-colony/#comment-11598</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 08:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaded, I think an Indonesia-type progrom is very unlikely here, simply because of how deeply the Chinese have intgerated into Thai society. For instance, a Thai friend of mine (3rd generation Chinese on both sides), when studying in the U.K. was amazed to meet a guy calling himself &quot;Malaysian-Chinese.&quot; In my friend&#039;s case he&#039;s just Thai, period (and doesn&#039;t speak any Chinese). There are very few people in Thailand without some Chinese blood, but they are Thai in their own minds. Although you can see how they&#039;ve changed Thai society, just as that society has changed them.

It&#039;s a fascinating question in many ways, how much of his culture should an immigrant give up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaded, I think an Indonesia-type progrom is very unlikely here, simply because of how deeply the Chinese have intgerated into Thai society. For instance, a Thai friend of mine (3rd generation Chinese on both sides), when studying in the U.K. was amazed to meet a guy calling himself &#8220;Malaysian-Chinese.&#8221; In my friend&#8217;s case he&#8217;s just Thai, period (and doesn&#8217;t speak any Chinese). There are very few people in Thailand without some Chinese blood, but they are Thai in their own minds. Although you can see how they&#8217;ve changed Thai society, just as that society has changed them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fascinating question in many ways, how much of his culture should an immigrant give up?</p>
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		<title>By: Jaded</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/thailand-a-chinese-colony/#comment-11597</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 08:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trend of Singapore based foreign condo buyers may have faltered but surely &quot;undervalued&quot; Thailand remains attractive for all kinds of different Chinese money ...

What&#039;s the bet that much of the capital inflows of the last few months was Chinese based? Not necessarily China based but then if you look at capital inflows to Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore after the big stimulus you can see that as much as twenty percent of those government monies were in foreign bank accounts within a couple of months of the initial disbursement ...  I saw a financial report that claimed Hong Kong alone picked up ten percent of it in a few months. Of course Hong Kong has Macao and Singapore is now casinoed up too. Pity about Thailand&#039;s ban but who knows what might change in the future? Where are those Chinese tourists anyway and what are they doing when they visit Thailand? What is likely to increase those flagging tourist numbers from the West?

Of course given the fantastic level of casino capitalism visible in the U.S. stock markets last night we might all be forgiven for assuming that the serious gambling money has moved away from traditional entertainments.

(BD: Indeed some serious completely legal gambling glitch last night! Who knows, the next glitch may push the DOW some 2,000 points upwards!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trend of Singapore based foreign condo buyers may have faltered but surely &#8220;undervalued&#8221; Thailand remains attractive for all kinds of different Chinese money &#8230;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the bet that much of the capital inflows of the last few months was Chinese based? Not necessarily China based but then if you look at capital inflows to Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore after the big stimulus you can see that as much as twenty percent of those government monies were in foreign bank accounts within a couple of months of the initial disbursement &#8230;  I saw a financial report that claimed Hong Kong alone picked up ten percent of it in a few months. Of course Hong Kong has Macao and Singapore is now casinoed up too. Pity about Thailand&#8217;s ban but who knows what might change in the future? Where are those Chinese tourists anyway and what are they doing when they visit Thailand? What is likely to increase those flagging tourist numbers from the West?</p>
<p>Of course given the fantastic level of casino capitalism visible in the U.S. stock markets last night we might all be forgiven for assuming that the serious gambling money has moved away from traditional entertainments.</p>
<p>(BD: Indeed some serious completely legal gambling glitch last night! Who knows, the next glitch may push the DOW some 2,000 points upwards!)</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 07:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going along with Jaded&#039;s version, there is another pronunciation of Sino-Thai, which ultimately has the same meaning as Jaded&#039;s, and that would be &quot;See (pause) - No Thai.&quot;

AntiPADshist, I think it was Wise Kwai aka Prof. Federico Ferrara who posted last year on China&#039;s unofficial-but-very-real economical colonization of Thailand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going along with Jaded&#8217;s version, there is another pronunciation of Sino-Thai, which ultimately has the same meaning as Jaded&#8217;s, and that would be &#8220;See (pause) &#8211; No Thai.&#8221;</p>
<p>AntiPADshist, I think it was Wise Kwai aka Prof. Federico Ferrara who posted last year on China&#8217;s unofficial-but-very-real economical colonization of Thailand.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaded</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 06:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sino-Thai should perhaps be spelt in a more phonetically correct fashion as &quot;Sigh (pause) - No Thai&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sino-Thai should perhaps be spelt in a more phonetically correct fashion as &#8220;Sigh (pause) &#8211; No Thai&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: BangkokDan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BangkokDan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 06:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or the holy &quot;Thainess&quot; rather reads like &quot;Thainese&quot;?

&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BangkokDan&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or the holy &#8220;Thainess&#8221; rather reads like &#8220;Thainese&#8221;?</p>
<p><a href="mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">BangkokDan</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jaded</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 05:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chi-Thai?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chi-Thai?</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 05:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thai-Nease?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thai-Nease?</p>
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