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		<title>By: BangkokDan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BangkokDan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 03:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s mindsets such as yours &lt;em&gt;crocodilexp&lt;/em&gt; that tell me there are much more important things to waste life with than with blogging for sad sad natures such as yours keeping on cursing and comparing to Hitler and and.

We&#039;ve moved way beyond that, with the use of heavy weapons, war-like street fighting and the burning down of Bangkok the double standard argument has become unusable, but guys like you keep on trying.

Let&#039;s try the Sesame Street approach: Some people block access to your house. Because they don&#039;t like you. Because you&#039;re a rich asshole. What? Prohibit assholes? You can hardly enter your house. Can&#039;t sleep, not to mention making a living. Still, you try to get along.

Next they have weapons. Say bye to your house and livelihood. 

You ask to be slapped? Get slapped.

Know what, keep on reading that Western academic who proudly announced the poor farmers made their voices heard on Bangkok&#039;s streets - but then returned to their usual lives as if nothing had happened while Bangkokians had to pick up their dirt and pieces.

Enough of this &quot;But it&#039;s the poor!&quot; BS.

Or is this your style of comment? (&quot;Censored&quot; it first because it&#039;s utter rubbish, but here it is especially for you:)
&lt;blockquote&gt;What are the chances some yellow shirts dressed in red and instigated violence?

What about the queen&#039;s guard etc.

Certainly, they have allot to gain by making the red shirts look destructive ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;
But in a way I&#039;m grateful to your cheerless dark voice. Really have many better things to do than keeping you entertained.

You and your selective wishful reality. And what&#039;s again your interest and/or stake in Thailand?

Yeah yeah I know am a pussy.

&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BangkokDan&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s mindsets such as yours <em>crocodilexp</em> that tell me there are much more important things to waste life with than with blogging for sad sad natures such as yours keeping on cursing and comparing to Hitler and and.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve moved way beyond that, with the use of heavy weapons, war-like street fighting and the burning down of Bangkok the double standard argument has become unusable, but guys like you keep on trying.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s try the Sesame Street approach: Some people block access to your house. Because they don&#8217;t like you. Because you&#8217;re a rich asshole. What? Prohibit assholes? You can hardly enter your house. Can&#8217;t sleep, not to mention making a living. Still, you try to get along.</p>
<p>Next they have weapons. Say bye to your house and livelihood. </p>
<p>You ask to be slapped? Get slapped.</p>
<p>Know what, keep on reading that Western academic who proudly announced the poor farmers made their voices heard on Bangkok&#8217;s streets &#8211; but then returned to their usual lives as if nothing had happened while Bangkokians had to pick up their dirt and pieces.</p>
<p>Enough of this &#8220;But it&#8217;s the poor!&#8221; BS.</p>
<p>Or is this your style of comment? (&#8220;Censored&#8221; it first because it&#8217;s utter rubbish, but here it is especially for you:)</p>
<blockquote><p>What are the chances some yellow shirts dressed in red and instigated violence?</p>
<p>What about the queen&#8217;s guard etc.</p>
<p>Certainly, they have allot to gain by making the red shirts look destructive &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>But in a way I&#8217;m grateful to your cheerless dark voice. Really have many better things to do than keeping you entertained.</p>
<p>You and your selective wishful reality. And what&#8217;s again your interest and/or stake in Thailand?</p>
<p>Yeah yeah I know am a pussy.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">BangkokDan</a></p>
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		<title>By: crocodilexp</title>
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		<dc:creator>crocodilexp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I can only say that I&#039;m amazed by this sincere and balanced summary that contradicts accounts by all those biased, paid-by-Thaksin journalists, who risked (and several lost) their lives to bring us first-hand overview of the events.

This should make it to Thai textbooks, while all the YouTube clips, tweets and first-hand observer articles would hopefully be censored and successfully swept under the rug. 

The article is of such quality is surely deserves the prestigious Goebbels award.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I can only say that I&#8217;m amazed by this sincere and balanced summary that contradicts accounts by all those biased, paid-by-Thaksin journalists, who risked (and several lost) their lives to bring us first-hand overview of the events.</p>
<p>This should make it to Thai textbooks, while all the YouTube clips, tweets and first-hand observer articles would hopefully be censored and successfully swept under the rug. </p>
<p>The article is of such quality is surely deserves the prestigious Goebbels award.</p>
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		<title>By: village idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>village idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 11:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Madam, you didn&#039;t mention the shootings and killings of innocent civilian bystanders (not red protesters) at Wat Pathum at all. Would you say they were all shot because they tried to help the reds? Or perhaps the reds&#039; own &quot;black-clad guards&quot; shot them so as to discredit the immensely popular Abhisit government? Your explanation is badly needed to convince us stupid buffaloes so we can reform ourselves and serve you better.

&lt;em&gt;(BD: Hmm borderline comment ...)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Madam, you didn&#8217;t mention the shootings and killings of innocent civilian bystanders (not red protesters) at Wat Pathum at all. Would you say they were all shot because they tried to help the reds? Or perhaps the reds&#8217; own &#8220;black-clad guards&#8221; shot them so as to discredit the immensely popular Abhisit government? Your explanation is badly needed to convince us stupid buffaloes so we can reform ourselves and serve you better.</p>
<p><em>(BD: Hmm borderline comment &#8230;)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Surie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to mention that Prof. Des Ball of ANU&#039;s Strategic and Defence Studies Center also thinks that the military operations against the red shirts were conducted professionally.

In an interview with Nicholas Farrelly of NM, he said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Let me say that I&#039;m not a person who normally supports army crackdowns of protesters. My sort of basic philosophy normally starts off from the other side, supporting protesters against army and security crackdowns. But in this case I think that &lt;b&gt;the security authorities including both the police and the army acted by and large very professionally.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;I&#039;m not sure whether I can see what other choices that they had &lt;/b&gt;, they had to finally move that red shirt encampment in that central business area of Bangkok. &lt;b&gt;They did it in ways which I think really minimized the violence &lt;/b&gt;compared to what it could have been, we could have seen fatalities in the hundreds if they hadn&#039;t been organized properly and conducted properly ...&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You can see his full interview at the link below. He discusses lots of issues including who the &quot;black shirts&quot; are and the assassination of Seh Daeng. The quoted part above appears at around 11.30 minute mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G94uSuQxSA0

Prof. Des Ball is an expert on military and security affairs and author of &quot;The Boys in Black: The Thahan Phran (Rangers), Thailand&#039;s Paramilitary Border Guards&quot; (White Lotus, Bangkok, 2004).

He was in his younger years also a visible leader of the anti-war movement. He&#039;s also the author of &quot;Masters of Terror: Indonesia&#039;s Military and Violence in East Timor in 1999&quot; which details evidence against three dozen Indonesian civil and military personnel. He said he wrote that to kick off wider public debate on the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to mention that Prof. Des Ball of ANU&#8217;s Strategic and Defence Studies Center also thinks that the military operations against the red shirts were conducted professionally.</p>
<p>In an interview with Nicholas Farrelly of NM, he said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Let me say that I&#8217;m not a person who normally supports army crackdowns of protesters. My sort of basic philosophy normally starts off from the other side, supporting protesters against army and security crackdowns. But in this case I think that <b>the security authorities including both the police and the army acted by and large very professionally.</b> <b>I&#8217;m not sure whether I can see what other choices that they had </b>, they had to finally move that red shirt encampment in that central business area of Bangkok. <b>They did it in ways which I think really minimized the violence </b>compared to what it could have been, we could have seen fatalities in the hundreds if they hadn&#8217;t been organized properly and conducted properly &#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>You can see his full interview at the link below. He discusses lots of issues including who the &#8220;black shirts&#8221; are and the assassination of Seh Daeng. The quoted part above appears at around 11.30 minute mark.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G94uSuQxSA0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G94uSuQxSA0</a></p>
<p>Prof. Des Ball is an expert on military and security affairs and author of &#8220;The Boys in Black: The Thahan Phran (Rangers), Thailand&#8217;s Paramilitary Border Guards&#8221; (White Lotus, Bangkok, 2004).</p>
<p>He was in his younger years also a visible leader of the anti-war movement. He&#8217;s also the author of &#8220;Masters of Terror: Indonesia&#8217;s Military and Violence in East Timor in 1999&#8243; which details evidence against three dozen Indonesian civil and military personnel. He said he wrote that to kick off wider public debate on the issue.</p>
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