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		<title>By: BangkokDan</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/wanted-politics-of-damage-control/#comment-1697</link>
		<dc:creator>BangkokDan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prachatai.com/english/news.php?id=798&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prachatai&lt;/a&gt; has an excellent compilation listing some of the perception issues concerning the PAD ...:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The so-called People’s Alliance for Democracy proposes an audaciously undemocratic “new politics” whereby most members of parliament would be appointed.&quot; Centre for Humanitarian Dialogue, Geneva&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The insurgents still style themselves as the “People’s Alliance for Democracy,” but this time some of their leaders are explicit in calling for just the opposite: the restoration of a full monarchy or a military-backed autocracy.&quot; Washington Post&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;What his [Samak’s] opponents, who come under the misleading banner of the People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD), want is a mandate on demand, by theft.&quot; Straits Times&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Even though the PAD’s very name includes the word democracy, many of its supporters are skeptical of electoral politics.&quot; Time&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Neither the PAD nor the DAAD advocate any recognisable form of democracy.&quot; Guardian&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The rebel groups are trying to roll back the results of last December’s general elections and reinstall rule by an urban elite traditionally backed by the Thai armed forces.&quot; Irish Times&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;An alliance of street protesters and a reactionary elite.&quot; Financial Times&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The latest ideologue [Sondhi] who promises to fix their country’s democracy by - once again - breaking it.&quot; Wall Street Journal&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;What the People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) did on August 26 … was a putsch.&quot; La Stampa&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Authoritarian rabble … the woefully misnamed People’s Alliance for Democracy  … a gruesome bunch of reactionary businessmen, generals and aristocrats.&quot; Economist&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The PAD leadership is no collection of spotless democrats.&quot; The Independent (London)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The group’s name appears to be a misnomer as it is neither populist nor does it want representative democracy.&quot; Al Jazeera&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BangkokDan&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.prachatai.com/english/news.php?id=798" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Prachatai</a> has an excellent compilation listing some of the perception issues concerning the PAD &#8230;:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The so-called People’s Alliance for Democracy proposes an audaciously undemocratic “new politics” whereby most members of parliament would be appointed.&#8221; Centre for Humanitarian Dialogue, Geneva</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The insurgents still style themselves as the “People’s Alliance for Democracy,” but this time some of their leaders are explicit in calling for just the opposite: the restoration of a full monarchy or a military-backed autocracy.&#8221; Washington Post</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;What his [Samak’s] opponents, who come under the misleading banner of the People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD), want is a mandate on demand, by theft.&#8221; Straits Times</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Even though the PAD’s very name includes the word democracy, many of its supporters are skeptical of electoral politics.&#8221; Time</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Neither the PAD nor the DAAD advocate any recognisable form of democracy.&#8221; Guardian</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The rebel groups are trying to roll back the results of last December’s general elections and reinstall rule by an urban elite traditionally backed by the Thai armed forces.&#8221; Irish Times</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;An alliance of street protesters and a reactionary elite.&#8221; Financial Times</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The latest ideologue [Sondhi] who promises to fix their country’s democracy by &#8211; once again &#8211; breaking it.&#8221; Wall Street Journal</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;What the People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) did on August 26 … was a putsch.&#8221; La Stampa</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Authoritarian rabble … the woefully misnamed People’s Alliance for Democracy  … a gruesome bunch of reactionary businessmen, generals and aristocrats.&#8221; Economist</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The PAD leadership is no collection of spotless democrats.&#8221; The Independent (London)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The group’s name appears to be a misnomer as it is neither populist nor does it want representative democracy.&#8221; Al Jazeera</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">BangkokDan</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/wanted-politics-of-damage-control/#comment-1694</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khun Vongthip Chumpani is a fascist moron. Why would anyone give this tripe a second thought?

&lt;em&gt;(BangkokDan: I hesitate to edit this comment. Please refrain from too strong language.)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Khun Vongthip Chumpani is a fascist moron. Why would anyone give this tripe a second thought?</p>
<p><em>(BangkokDan: I hesitate to edit this comment. Please refrain from too strong language.)</em></p>
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		<title>By: BangkokDan</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/wanted-politics-of-damage-control/#comment-1691</link>
		<dc:creator>BangkokDan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take bets: When will the arrest warrants against Sondhi, Chamlong &amp; Co. be dropped?

The casino&#039;s open, try your luck. Don&#039;t worry, it&#039;s a safe bet.

&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BangkokDan&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take bets: When will the arrest warrants against Sondhi, Chamlong &#038; Co. be dropped?</p>
<p>The casino&#8217;s open, try your luck. Don&#8217;t worry, it&#8217;s a safe bet.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">BangkokDan</a></p>
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		<title>By: davidb98</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/wanted-politics-of-damage-control/#comment-1690</link>
		<dc:creator>davidb98</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief ... let&#039;s keep Thailand safe from freely voted politicians ...

It&#039;s a worry that democracy might enable some ordinary people to participate in some of the rorts and special funding schemes we have got so used to enjoying ...

Being a member of the traditional ruling class is such hard graft these days, our old mates don&#039;t seem to have access to the good things like they use to ...

This taksin was a real disaster, he was smart enough to close off some of our schemes like the underground lottery and those nice people that use to give us money to let them keep operating their supposedly illegal businesses in drugs and some of those nice little boys and girls from over the border ... 

Thaksin started the rot and this samak is just carrying on with the same policies ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief &#8230; let&#8217;s keep Thailand safe from freely voted politicians &#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a worry that democracy might enable some ordinary people to participate in some of the rorts and special funding schemes we have got so used to enjoying &#8230;</p>
<p>Being a member of the traditional ruling class is such hard graft these days, our old mates don&#8217;t seem to have access to the good things like they use to &#8230;</p>
<p>This taksin was a real disaster, he was smart enough to close off some of our schemes like the underground lottery and those nice people that use to give us money to let them keep operating their supposedly illegal businesses in drugs and some of those nice little boys and girls from over the border &#8230; </p>
<p>Thaksin started the rot and this samak is just carrying on with the same policies &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kong</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/wanted-politics-of-damage-control/#comment-1687</link>
		<dc:creator>Kong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a real shame. It&#039;s a full kindergarden congress in progress, all controlled by Thaksin ex London, with deep pockets.

When will Thailand get politically rid of this corrupt person? When will the people understand, that what the PAD want and most understanding Thai people want (but unfortunately not the majority) is in fact a good cause, and a scream for change (less corruption, less dictatorship by selfish people) and is the better solution for this country, compared to any support or control, by those corrupt Thaksin, Newin &amp; cronies and co. 

I really can&#039;t believe how all these corrupt coalition party member&#039;s still continue to listen to Thaksin, despite knowing that he was so corrupt and bad for Thailand. All with a low-IQ proxy, who does exactly the same thing as Thaksin did: divide the country into two parts. 

I really can&#039;t believe how Thailand is sinking and sinking, still under Thaksin&#039;s dictatorship even more and more. When will they get rid of him? When will they learn? 

When will the people also learn, who is the much bigger evil (group), and understand that if we want to progress, that we have to decide to get first rid of something, before the progress can happen?! Opposing all sides and put your head in the sand, is no solution. 

Thailand has to move on, but without Thaksin, that is clear for every person with common sense, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a real shame. It&#8217;s a full kindergarden congress in progress, all controlled by Thaksin ex London, with deep pockets.</p>
<p>When will Thailand get politically rid of this corrupt person? When will the people understand, that what the PAD want and most understanding Thai people want (but unfortunately not the majority) is in fact a good cause, and a scream for change (less corruption, less dictatorship by selfish people) and is the better solution for this country, compared to any support or control, by those corrupt Thaksin, Newin &amp; cronies and co. </p>
<p>I really can&#8217;t believe how all these corrupt coalition party member&#8217;s still continue to listen to Thaksin, despite knowing that he was so corrupt and bad for Thailand. All with a low-IQ proxy, who does exactly the same thing as Thaksin did: divide the country into two parts. </p>
<p>I really can&#8217;t believe how Thailand is sinking and sinking, still under Thaksin&#8217;s dictatorship even more and more. When will they get rid of him? When will they learn? </p>
<p>When will the people also learn, who is the much bigger evil (group), and understand that if we want to progress, that we have to decide to get first rid of something, before the progress can happen?! Opposing all sides and put your head in the sand, is no solution. </p>
<p>Thailand has to move on, but without Thaksin, that is clear for every person with common sense, no?</p>
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		<title>By: hobby</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/wanted-politics-of-damage-control/#comment-1686</link>
		<dc:creator>hobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To understand why this crop of politicians are despised, one only needs to look at the recent jockeying regarding the possible re-appointment of the now morally (if not legally) disqualified Samak.

And to top it off, they seek advice from a fugitive in London about whether the evidence fabricator should be re-appointed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To understand why this crop of politicians are despised, one only needs to look at the recent jockeying regarding the possible re-appointment of the now morally (if not legally) disqualified Samak.</p>
<p>And to top it off, they seek advice from a fugitive in London about whether the evidence fabricator should be re-appointed!</p>
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		<title>By: number&#38;number</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/wanted-politics-of-damage-control/#comment-1684</link>
		<dc:creator>number&#38;number</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Land of children is scary indeed! The fascist mindset is so overbearing, where the elite and the educated despise those with lesser means to the extent of wanting to maintain a bi-polar state at all costs. When the Vongthip writes &quot;both our grassroots and intelligent voters&quot; she blatantly shows her open contempt for the uneducated. Who wants to have everyone educated when you can just keep them stupid and in your service as slaves. Even the educated middle class elderly hold to infantile values of patron/servant values that they instill in their grandchildren. That&#039;s why its called the land of children. Democracy is an affront!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Land of children is scary indeed! The fascist mindset is so overbearing, where the elite and the educated despise those with lesser means to the extent of wanting to maintain a bi-polar state at all costs. When the Vongthip writes &#8220;both our grassroots and intelligent voters&#8221; she blatantly shows her open contempt for the uneducated. Who wants to have everyone educated when you can just keep them stupid and in your service as slaves. Even the educated middle class elderly hold to infantile values of patron/servant values that they instill in their grandchildren. That&#8217;s why its called the land of children. Democracy is an affront!</p>
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		<title>By: BangkokDan</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/wanted-politics-of-damage-control/#comment-1683</link>
		<dc:creator>BangkokDan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://bangkokpundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/elite-view.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bangkok Pundit&lt;/a&gt; has some sharp takes on this &quot;emergency letter.&quot;

Remember the June newsletter of Khun Vongthip:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Millions of baht more were paid anonymously into PAD’s account to keep them going.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Those anonymous donors expect a return on their investment.

As the PPP expects a return on its investment. You don&#039;t &quot;win&quot; elections here without being rewarded!

PAD + PPP = Same same, but different. Both here to stay, in a way.

&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BangkokDan&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bangkokpundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/elite-view.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Bangkok Pundit</a> has some sharp takes on this &#8220;emergency letter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Remember the June newsletter of Khun Vongthip:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Millions of baht more were paid anonymously into PAD’s account to keep them going.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Those anonymous donors expect a return on their investment.</p>
<p>As the PPP expects a return on its investment. You don&#8217;t &#8220;win&#8221; elections here without being rewarded!</p>
<p>PAD + PPP = Same same, but different. Both here to stay, in a way.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:absolutelyBangkok@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">BangkokDan</a></p>
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		<title>By: ThaiCrisis</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/wanted-politics-of-damage-control/#comment-1682</link>
		<dc:creator>ThaiCrisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surreal ... What is even more striking than the lunacy of &quot;New Politics&quot; (ah ah ah) is her perfect ingenuity.

She&#039;s sincere. She believes what she&#039;s writing ...

The all stuff is mixed with blatant lies (Europe! She confuses senate, upper house and lower house like in France for instance) and perfect non-sense (people in HK are not educated - yet? So on this rather strange scale, how can we qualify the people in Thailand?!).

Scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surreal &#8230; What is even more striking than the lunacy of &#8220;New Politics&#8221; (ah ah ah) is her perfect ingenuity.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s sincere. She believes what she&#8217;s writing &#8230;</p>
<p>The all stuff is mixed with blatant lies (Europe! She confuses senate, upper house and lower house like in France for instance) and perfect non-sense (people in HK are not educated &#8211; yet? So on this rather strange scale, how can we qualify the people in Thailand?!).</p>
<p>Scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://absolutelybangkok.com/wanted-politics-of-damage-control/#comment-1681</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Khun Vongthip Chumpani!

I totally agree with you. 

This large group can&#039;t be ignored any longer! No matter what current bloggers, international media etc. are warning. I still see and believe that actually the Thaksin clan is the true enemy of democracy; with their level of current and past corruption and with this dictator demanding and controlling the majority of our current MPs, with deep pockets, mostly gained by government controlled deals and laws benefiting him/themselves and his people.

A national government with the Democrats included is currently the only reasonable and honest way out of this Thaksin mess, he produced and still is holding and creating us, since 2001! 

We pray for Thailand that these people start working for the good of the country and people, and stop trying to realize their own egoistic and personal financial goals, via telephone calls to London.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Khun Vongthip Chumpani!</p>
<p>I totally agree with you. </p>
<p>This large group can&#8217;t be ignored any longer! No matter what current bloggers, international media etc. are warning. I still see and believe that actually the Thaksin clan is the true enemy of democracy; with their level of current and past corruption and with this dictator demanding and controlling the majority of our current MPs, with deep pockets, mostly gained by government controlled deals and laws benefiting him/themselves and his people.</p>
<p>A national government with the Democrats included is currently the only reasonable and honest way out of this Thaksin mess, he produced and still is holding and creating us, since 2001! </p>
<p>We pray for Thailand that these people start working for the good of the country and people, and stop trying to realize their own egoistic and personal financial goals, via telephone calls to London.</p>
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